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Old 08-18-2007, 11:31 PM   #11
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Re: Crash Course Nutrients and Algae 101


I too, am extremely grateful for your assistance!

Just finished 50% wc and getting all the Vals out (I hope). Will need to wait for the 2hr parameters a little longer as I had to have the filter/lights/CO2 off while doing the wc. So, don't wait up for me. I'll have them for you in the am. It will be close to Midnight (central time) before I can get them.

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I take about 10-15 baby vals out of my tank every other week. If you would like some I will send you the next pruning. Strange about the decline, mine do fine, although I don't think I have ever put them through a blackout.

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Re: Crash Course Nutrients and Algae 101

I'd be happy to take some baby Vals off your hands. I'll pm the address.

Readings:

After Blackout:

pH 7.8
Ammonia 0.5
Nitrite 0.25
Nitrate 80
PO4 2.5
GH 13
KH 7


After 50% wc & 2hrs of lights/CO2

pH 7.4
Ammonia <.25 but >0
Nitrite 0.25
Nitrate 40
PO4 1.0
GH 11
KH 7

Degassed pH 8.0 (done according to your article)

Tap (well water) nitrate 10

I think I will need to do another 50% wc.
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Re: Crash Course Nutrients and Algae 101

I guess I'm just really lucky. I have live plants in my 20 high with Jewels and 29 community and they are flourishing. My algae is being controlled in my 29 by 3 algae eaters who keep the glass and leaves of the live plants clean. My 29 has a UGF and a penguin 350 biowheel-
(because I really have to many fish in that tank but it looks so good) and the 20 high 2 power filters.

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Hey T good of you to join us

Teresa... I would do another 50 if your tap is at 10. I would keep up a once a week schedule.

Looks to me like you are going to be targeting about 25 - 30 ppm NO3 after the water change. I would do this by using Chucks calculator and making a stock solution of KNO3. Test your tap at water change, subtract that from your target, divide by 3, and dose that amount every other day.

Target 30 ppm NO3
Tap 10 ppm NO3
Target becomes 20 ppm dosed three times a week or approx. 6.5 ppm each dose. Water change on Sunday 50%; dose 6.5, Tue dose 6.5, Thur 6.5, on the days in between dose 10 ml of Flourish. Keep the CO2 cranked!

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Is the controller off line? Looks to me like your pH could drop to 7.2 to give you decent saturation of gas.

Your PO4 could probably go to 2 ppm. same type stock solution of KH2PO4 targeting and dosing on the days you dose NO3.

I am concerned that there will not be enough potassium (K) from the (K)NO3 and (K)H2PO4 to get you to 20ppm. You can do the math using Chuck's Calculator.

If you come up short on K, go to the grocery store and buy some "Nu Salt" or salt substitute. Look at the label, it will be KCL (potassium chloride), with a little non caking agent thrown in. This is a good source for potassium. The calculator has KCL included for you.

Dose the K the same day you do the KNO3 and KH2PO4

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Jay I am guessing you require a full set of parameters from me as well?

If I don't have a PO4 test kit should I pick one up?
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Re: Crash Course Nutrients and Algae 101

Controller off line. Sir!
pH is down to 7.0 Fish doing ok.

Yes, it all makes sense at the present time . Am working on the 50% WC now and will mix my stock solutions soon.

Printed off the dosing schedule and will keep it handy at all times. With my ml need based on my stock solution mix rate.

Oh - I have otto's - 8 of them. More? I do need more corys though - only have 5 in the tank.

Thanks again "Oh Wise One" - I'll let you know how "we" are doing!
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Hey P-daddy

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If I don't have a PO4 test kit should I pick one up?
No..unless your tap water is funky <-Advanced Water Chemistry term like Teresa's.

A complete set of all other readings will help us with our first draft nutrient dosing routine


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Grrrrr, this is going to have to be put on hold

I bought a GH and KH test kit a couple of weeks back and just now is the first time I have gone to use it. Low and behold it is missing the color charts necessary to get my results. I just looked around to see if I could find the charts online but didn't have any luck.
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I don't know which tests you have, P-Daddy, but mine don't use color charts for the KH & GH. You have to count drops... And watch when the color changes. Mine are from API.
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