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11-21-2008, 05:34 PM
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#1 | | Fry
Join Date: Nov 2008
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| Help Me Please Hello everyone, I am desperate by now as I have a 29 gal tank it has been up and running for about 5 months now and it has been one problem after another. I have several fish that I've had since I put the tank up but some others don't seem to be doing well. Problem is I have 2 angelfish one has a blemish or a pink fleshy thing on it's fin pit (would be armpit) it has been there for about three weeks then last week he has developed a white spot in the middle of his other arm fin. My other angelfish has a white cyst looking thing on it's eye lid area. They are still eating and seem ok other than the things I just mentioned. I had a marble mollie that died today out of the blue. She had looked a little stresed but not to the point of dying. About a week ago I raised the temp to 84 and added about 14 tsp of aquarium salt, then three days ago I started using both Melafix and Pimafix. Don't really no what else to do since I really don't know what the issue is. Please help Kyle |
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11-21-2008, 05:47 PM
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#2 | | Oscar
Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ohio
Posts: 1,328
| Re: Help Me Please Kyle, Wecome to fishtankforums, you have come to the right place for help. Someone will be along pretty soon to give you some good advise.
do you happen to have a picture of that fish? water test results would help alot too. |
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11-21-2008, 06:43 PM
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#3 | | Fry
Join Date: Nov 2008
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| Re: Help Me Please Hello again, I can take a pic of the fish in question but I'm not sure how I would go about uploading it on here. As for water tests I had one done yesterday at my local ma and pa fish store and every thing was good except ph was a little high they said at 7.5. I forgot to say in my earlier post that about 3 or 4 weeks ago all 4 of my african dwarf frogs died, 3 in one night and the other about 3 days later. I am baffled. Kyle |
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11-21-2008, 06:58 PM
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#4 | | Rainbow
Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: california
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| Re: Help Me Please Hey Kyle. I am really sorry to hear about all of the loss you have endured with your tank. Do you happen to know exactly what your parameters were when your LFS said 'everything was good' such as the ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate levels. Also, have you added any other chemicals other than the ones that you have listed into your system? Lastly, have you been using the same water source as well as the same faucet to supply your tank during water changes? These are some questions that others might ask you as well as might trigger any ideas of why you are having these problems. Again I am sorry to hear about your problems but really try to hang in there and I am sure others will be stopping by very shortly to help you out. Good luck!
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11-21-2008, 09:36 PM
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#5 | | Fry
Join Date: Nov 2008
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| Re: Help Me Please They didn't tell me what the levels were other than the ph. I do always use my kitchen sink for water changes. I know that I do have an over stocked tank but I had been doing a couple times a week water changes until shortly after the frogs died cause about then I had a baloon mollie that had developed popeye in both eyes and died so I started doing daliy water changes. I will post more if I can remember any thing else. I Hope that with enough info someone will know what the issue or issues could be. Thank you for your help this far Izzy. I almost forgot. In referance to your question of any other chemicals. After I found out yesterday that my ph was a little high I put in the recomended amount of ph balancer "proper ph 7.0" is the name of the balancer that I used. Thanks again Kyle
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11-22-2008, 07:18 AM
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#6 | | Smod/Admin
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Waldo, Arkansas
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| Re: Help Me Please Welcome Boyzerk to FTF. Sorry about your troubles. Several things here concern me. First, when your LFS says water is ok that does not tell us much. Not all LFS' are reliable. I am assuming you cycled your tank with fish? That can leave fish in a weakened state. Ammonia and NitrIte are toxic chemicals for your fish.
Second, without knowing what is going on you should not begin to add more chemicals to your tank. So far you have added (I assume) something to rid your tap water of Chlorine/Chloramine, 14 Teaspoons of Marine salt, Melafix, Pimafix and now a ph buffer? WOW, that's a lot of chemicals for 29 gallons. May I ask why you added marin salt? If you thought you were dealing with Ich, then plain old household table salt is what you should have used, not marine salt.
Lastly, you are correct in that you did have a heavy bioload but IMO I think I would get my own test kit and try and see what's going on with the water first before adding more chemcials to the mix. I also think I would do a 25-30% water change. Sorry Kyle. I hope some of this helps you out.
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11-22-2008, 07:29 AM
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#7 | | Smod/Admin
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| Re: Help Me Please Hey Kyle...Welcome to the forum
I think Judge is right on with her advice, and will be looking for your future posts.
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11-22-2008, 10:15 AM
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#8 | | Betta
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Alabama
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| Re: Help Me Please Judge I think he was using Aquarium Salt not marine salt. Guppies love it and it is good for all freshwater aquariums. Fish stores use it regularly so it's a good idea for you to use that kyle  . It helps relieve stress and get rid of disease. Also with your VERY frequent water changes probably causes a lot of stress! Can you imagine sitting in a sealed room with frequent air changes  ! And just like judge said you might be adding to many chems especially if you don't know what your dealing with. Please get us the EXACT parameters of your water. Your ammonia may have been rising and falling because of your over-stock. The reason possible reason for this (if this is the case) is your over-stock eats then poops and the poop decays then raises your ammonia. Then your nitrites/nitrates kick in and lower it then the process starts over.
Bottom line is stop adding your chems until we can help you figure out what your dealing with and keep adding the salt it will help everything! Oh and another tip don't add so many fish! It may be hard but it will help once you can start over.
P.S. I also add Aquarium salt and it does wonders for your fish so keep doing it!
Oh one more thing I promise! Never add table salt unless it's Ich! That can hurt your fish dearly! If that is what you are adding then go to regular as i said Aquarium Salt! I can't tell you how good for your fish it is!
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11-22-2008, 04:16 PM
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#9 | | Smod/Admin
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| Re: Help Me Please Quote:
P.S. I also add Aquarium salt and it does wonders for your fish so keep doing it!
Oh one more thing I promise! Never add table salt unless it's Ich! That can hurt your fish dearly! If that is what you are adding then go to regular as i said Aquarium Salt! I can't tell you how good for your fish it is!
| What will your opinion be when you discover Marine Salt or Aquarium Salt is primarily NaCl (table salt) ?
IMO other than the trace amounts of NaCl and other mineral salts which make up GH, Salt (NaCl) does not belong in a freshwater aquarium.
Many fish do well when the content of the GH of the water matches their genetic imprint. That means adjusting the mineral salts content of the water other than NaCl to include more Mg, Ca, etc.
Jay
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11-22-2008, 05:39 PM
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#10 | | Oscar
Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ohio
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| Re: Help Me Please ya know me, I gotta jump in.
jmo, salt is salt unless you add or take away parts of it. then its not salt anymore, meaning its no longer a chemical compound known as NaCl. periodic table. part Na and part CL
just my 2 cents worth
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